Tunings, The miscellaneous
From firstname.lastname@example.org Fri Jan 27 00:45:41 PST 1995 Article: 11740 of rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Path: unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!rene.ma.utexas.edu!welton From: email@example.com (Patrick Welton) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Subject: More alt. tunings Date: 26 Jan 1995 21:45:37 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 163 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: rene.ma.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] I saw this yesterday on rec.music.celtic and thought it would be of interest over here. -pat welton- ________________________________________________________________ From: email@example.com (Pete Young) Newsgroups: rec.music.celtic Subject: Some Guitar Tunings (was Re: Celtic Guitar Tunings) Date: 25 Jan 1995 12:29:44 GMT Here, dredged up from the depths of my directory structure and suitably edited, are the results of the tunings survey conducted by Peter Rayner on rec.music.folk in August 1989. Many of the email addresses may no longer be current. The one given for me will still work! This survey could probably do with being updated. Email to me and I'll do what I can. My thanks to all the contributors once again, and my apologies to Peter Rayner for dragging his name through the mud. Any errors in the following are mine. Don't blame me, I'm a concertina player :-) At the time I made a plea for information on tunings used by Ry Cooder. That plea still stands, since no-one has sent me anything yet. >From Pete Young : firstname.lastname@example.org Some nice tunings for you to experiment with: (Starting with the 6th or deepest string) DADGAD Used by everybody and his dog. DGDGBD Used by many slide players and also by many Irish players(ie Paul Brady on Arthur Mcbride from ``Andy Irvine and Paul Brady'' CGCGCD Nic Jones (Canadee-i-o on Penguin Eggs), Martin Simpson [After some heated discussion about this tuning, I stand by the claim that Nic used it, and tuned the whole guitar down an additional tone. An alternative school of thought is that he used DGDGCD and capoed up three semitones - the recording appears to be in B Flat - PY] CGCGCC Jones again (William Glenn on The Noas Ark Trap) DGDGBflatD Michael Chapman on Playing Guitar the Easy Way (This record well worth getting, has a lot of info on tunings and Tabs) DGDGCD Martin Simpson (A Cut Above - with June Tabor) EADEAE Dick Gaughan and Nic Jones. [And we can add to this EAAEAE, confirmed by Dick in r.m.f last month - PY] A one-song special by Iain Kearey, formally the bass player with the Oyster Band. This was a 12-string tuning for the song ``Dowie dens of Yarrow'' and was C-G-C-Eflat-Bflat-Eflat. >From Ronald Anderson: email@example.com.Tek.com I think CSN&Y's Gueniviere had a tuning something like DBDACD, but I'm probably wrong. I remember it being wierd, because some of the strings got tighter, and they often broke if they weren't new ( and sometimes even when they were ). Two of the higher strings were dissonant when open ( a believe, a major 2nd ). I'm fairly confident that the B and A are right. I got it from a book somewhere. Perhaps someone on the net has a copy ? From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Michael J. Natkin) One of the Guitar Player special series, "Hot Licks", has a special section on alternative tunings sometime lasy year [1988!]. As i recall it listed 50 different tunings, described their uses, named songs, and gave a short example. You might see if it is offered as a back issue. From: DOW@MAINE.BITNET (Michael R. Dow) I just picked up "The Guitar Book" by Pierre Bensusan .. (For those of you who don't know who this guy is, he uses DADGAD in 90% of his music.) While this book is a little on the advanced side, (It uses tabulature coupled with standard music notation) it is an excellent book to learn some new finger techniques and get some new ideas on DADGAD... From: mdt@druin.ATT.COM (Michael D. Todd) [Re Michael Hedges] That's not uncommon with him.. He makes extensive use of DADGAD, DADDAD and other variations in D.. There was a special edition 'Hot Licks' (put out by the now-defunct FRETS magazine, I think) which had a lot of different tunings in it.. I own a copy of it somewhere... One tuning I've been using a lot (works great for key of E-major) is: E,A,D,F#,B,E. It was a popular lute tuing. It allows you to let the 3rd string (F#) be played open on E,A, and B voicings giving respectively E2, A6, and B5. It greatly simplifys the fingerings on many of John Dowland's songs. From: aaalexis@sactoh0 (Andrew A. Alexis) > Some of Martin Carthy's stuff (esp. w/ Steeleye) seems to be in open G, > DGDGBD, though I'm not sure. I've found his arrangements easier to > play this way since he does alot w/ octaves. > Someone once told me that British and Irish music can be done in an > open D tuning, but I've never found any good applications... > suggestions are welcome. I had quite a bit of trouble figuring out Martin Carthy's pieces until I found out his tuning(s). One he uses quite a bit nowadays is DADEAB. Yes, the high E string is all the way down to B. THis is a little too slack for me, so I use DADEAD. This is a tuning that John Renbourn uses occasionally(Pelican) and Alex Degrassi uses extensively. I play Geordie, Over the Hills, and Cold Haily Windy night in this tuning approximately like Carthy does. It is very difficult to get his percussiveness down, so I do the best I can. Carthy also has a book out with the words/music to a lot of the ballads he does, and a few transcriptions of instrumental guitar pieces he does. He doesn't include any of the ballads accompaniments because(as he says in the intro) he doesn't want to have too many carthy clones around. I got my copy in San Francisco, at the Guitar Store(maybe Guitar Shop). It is an imported book and may be hard to find. From: aaalexis@sactoh0 (Andrew A. Alexis) In article <11359@brunix.UUCP>, email@example.com (Greg Siegle) writes: > > While we're on it, I've been playing with transcribing some Michael > Hedges (yes, I'm making up notation as I go), and have found > some of his tunes easiest in CGDGBD, another Gsus4 tuning. Has > anyone else used this tuning? It seems quite fun but I haven't > found it before. I believe that Leo Kottke uses CGDGBD on a version of Tumbling Tumbleweeds he does on one of his later albums. Also, the only tuning I have ever come up with that allows one to play "OWLS" from Greenhouse is CGDGBE, which is close. The dropped C tuning is also used extensively in Hawaiian Slack Key guitar. There was a book on Slack Key guitar at one time put out by Oak. Another person who uses something like the C etc tuning is Dave Evans, who is on Kicking Mule. He uses both CGDGBbD and CGDGAD. From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Paul Kelly) I sat down a while ago and gave a shot to Hedges's version of "All Along the Watchtower," probably his easiest song. From all the harmonics he hits on it it was pretty easy to get the tuning. It's DADEAE and the main theme of it is just the 3 low strings on the 4th fret, 2nd fret, and then open, then ring the 12th fret harmonic (and rap on the side of the guitar occasionally). Mighty easy to play, but it looks and sounds very impressive ;-). In addition, he uses CGDGBD on "Rickover's Dream," but I sure can't play it. CGDGBD is the same tuning, also, that Joni Mitchell uses on "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire," and a slight variation, CGDGBE, appears to be what Neil Young uses on "Cowgirl in the Sand" on 4-Way Street. I'm not positive about that, though, so correct me if I'm wrong. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Pete Young email@example.com Phone +44 1473 640885 "Just another crouton, floating on the bouillabaisse of life"
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